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I would hate to lose Mango and Whompas they seem like great guys so it is good that they are where they wanted to be. However would it really be the end of the world for them if they were in the same league as their friends but not in the same federation? As I keep on saying most other leagues don't even have this structure, in fact I don't know of any that do. So they would be quitting because they are missing out on something that they couldn't get anywhere else if they did quit. It doesn't make sense to me.

You are like a legend in the game up there with C-Cat, mllama and Dire as someone I have looked up to for seasons and aspired to emulate so naturally I want you to be happy as well. However, some people often get very upset about small things and don't see the big picture. On the other hand it is good that all decisions are thoroughly debated.

Ever read the book "Churchill and Hitler"? It isn't actually about war but management styles. Hitler surrounded himself with yes men. Invade Poland? Yes. Holocaust? Great idea. Second front with USSR? Brilliant! We all know how that went. On the other hand Churchill was surrounded by his fiercest critics and had to fight Parliament so any plan he had was thoroughly debated. It is slower, it is smoother but it gets the best results.

However, there is at least one person - not you - that seems to criticise every single thing we ever do and dislike everything. We aren't going to boot him out but if he is so unhappy with every single thing that ever happens I don't know why he doesn't just leave.

The plus factors of this league are
+ being on a team
+ competing against other Aussie teams
+ being mentored by some of the best minds in Aussie BuzzerBeater (in fact with Dire, mllama, C-Cat, Iwen, Naker, Koop, Monkey and You I would say we have most of the best minds)
+ a write up of every game
+ ladders
+ MVPs
+ prizes
+ federations
+ a very passionate community
+ very active forums
+ you can invite your friends to join

The minus
- your friend may be playing against you and not with you - as they would in every other private league anywhere

Honestly if that minus outweighs all the positives I am very surprised.

Great idea. Second front with USSR?

You mean fighting a war on 2 fronts isn't a good idea?

This is in no way about shit canning your ideas. More throwing out what i think is the best way of doing things. That said i'm not the sherriff in these parts so it's not my call and i'll play by whatever rules are set. If they piss me off enough i'll leave but i doubt that would ever happen.

Healthy discussion is a good thing

Just remember i am always right! -JJ

Well I am one of the two Sheriffs along with Koop.

I have been wrong many, many times before and I am always keen to hear alternatives and debate.

The idea of drafting ABBL and division II teams has some merit but I see big issues there. I am just not sure drawing a line in the sand at division II for the draft is neat. Is a division II team that is about to be relegated really better than a division III team that is about to be promoted? We wont even know who this is until too late. Any line is going to be arbitary and maybe some teams wont like being labelled as weak.

I guess I can't see any down side to just being able to directly sign division IV teams if there are any - but is does make things more complex.

haha yeah there are pros and cons to any decisions that are being made, and it is great that we are having a discussion about it... but like JW has said we need to be less serious and as yoda has said look at the bigger picture.

Sometimes we read things that we don't like or object, and conversations can get a little heated, it happens all the time. But as long as we slog it out and stay focussed on job at hand which is to get 12 new teams in so we can get the next season started, we'll be in good hands. Save the anger and hostilities for the games, who knows you might win a few more games with that kind of energy LOL

At this point in time I'll have to agree with Yoda on the draft here. He has already pointed out all the benefits of it. And it provides a means for new or old (free agent) teams to be selected by the federations.

However some teams on that draft list will have affiliations with some of the feds, so they can be protected. And as BHB and bainsy has suggested, classify all the div3 and div4 teams as protected picks (those with no affiliations will be put on the draft list). And classify all the abbl and div2 as drafted. I do not know of the ramifications of that, but it sounds like a good idea so far.

glad to be here!

Cheers

I feel bad for Bainsenator, he got drafted into the Sharks unwillingly !!!! He probably wanted to be with his friends in the kevin or the guppies. Who are the leaders of team Guppies and Kevins?

Zyler = Guppies
C-Cat = Kevin

Haven't heard from Zyler in a while. Is he still active? Maybe it's time for mutiny!

Last I heard he didn't have access to Internet or if he did it was very limited. That's a guppy fed question mate

Bainsy is in good hands now! hahah Though I didn't know Bainsy was mates with other teams in other Federations, we wouldn't keep him @ the Sharks against his will! hahah
Though if he is affiliated with the other Feds then he is a perfect example of someone who enjoys the game for what it is regardless of being in the same Fed as his mates or making new mates in other Feds!
jw

that seems to criticise every single thing we ever do and dislike everything. We aren't going to boot him out but if he is so unhappy with every single thing that ever happens I don't know why he doesn't just leave.

Alright, I'll obey and play by the rules... I am just so over seeing Smeltz winning MVP every season!! hahahahah
jw