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thats a good idea

but i'll be pissed if i wasnt in c-cats PL
cos i kinda want to play against his full strength team with my full strength team...

since there are 4 teams of four, how will u decide which teams are in which PL?

in your format u will have 4 powerhouse teams pitched against 4 really lowbie teams, coupled in with 8 medium tier teams.

but if u mixed up the teams across the two PL's, you will have 16 top tier teams playing against each other week after week
and 16 lower grade teams playing each other week after week...

interesting!! We have to be careful not to over complicate things tho otherwise fun may fly out the window

that's true and i dont like any of the idea here. too complicated... in the end, no result like always....
keep things simple and it will work. think practical, not fancy and all talk.

dont mine me just sayin hey

Good point.
Perhaps if we simply select the teams as I said, and then split the team up for the 2 PLs then it will remain really competitive and I think it will be a lot of fun!
And this way even the lower grade teams are able to really be part of the team and make a difference.

What do others think about this?

do you like the idea of having teams of 4 and having 2 PLs?

I don't like about 99% of this. I think one of the big reasons that we have had so much success has been the solid core teams, so no matter what happens I think the core XBB (Koop, SAS, DFBS, JW and TA) should stay together and the core IV.7 (Seagulls, Virus, Goldfish, Cowboys, PossumChasers {and I am sure we would love to keep Knights and Titans too}) should stay together.

Koop if you had to choose between playing with C-Cat or SAS, DFBS, JW and TA would you really ditch your mates? Naker would you? I wouldn't. And as far as I can see there is 0 point having JW, TA, PP and Pancakes in the same league, those games will be a waste of everyone's time.

C-Cat I think it is great to have you here on the forums. Iwen was our most prestigious contributor (although Dire has done him GM stuff from time to time) but you would be an amazing addition to our discussions, but in my opinion you are too amazing for our actual games. Would you really enjoy beating the Possum Chasers by 150 points one week and then Naker Virus by 200 the next?

This is my vision of the future: 3 private leagues.

1) Tea Cup :Ultra Serious ABBL and top division 2 teams. No jokes allowed, no expectations that anyone will contribute to the forums, just ultra serious brutal competition.
2) Fish Bowl :Fun but competetive league. Middle division 2 teams to upper division 3 teams. Lots of fun, people that like chats and talking on the forums and discussing strategy and jokes.
3) Fish Bowl Division 2: (we need a better name, maybe the Dental Plate, the Rubber Spoon, the Bouncy Ball, I don't know): For up and coming teams, mostly division 3 maybe the occasional struggling 2 or powerhouse 4. Good people that want to learn the game and get better.

But the other structure that could be ok is the one suggested by Koop.

1) Tea Cup.
2) Fish bowl East (two teams)
3) Fish Bowl West (two teams)

There would be 4 Fish Bowl teams, I guess XBB, IV.7 and two others all competing for the fish bowl. We can easily make a combined ladder (using my pitiful excel skills).

If everyone was patient enough and wanted it we could also have a finals series at the end, I think (maybe someone can let me know) you can make a 8 man tournamnet style pl, that would run 3 weeks and be our "finals". Just an idea.

Or we could just have the winners decided by the ladders.

We would need two strong managers to be the leaders of the two new teams.

Better or worse?

C-Cat I think it is great to have you here on the forums. Iwen was our most prestigious contributor (although Dire has done him GM stuff from time to time)

I just sit back and watch you guys do your thing. I'm kind of like the friendly neighbourhood stalker, i don't really get involved, i just watch you through the window at nights ;)

Oh damn I'll go and put some clothes on then!!

hahah yes very true, being associated / teamed up with an ABBL team would be awesome, but playing with XBB would be 2nd to none.

Can we at least get a list together for the teams who will be competing in Fish Bowl II first? Then the rest will decide for themselves right?

jw

I like the idea of having the teams of 4 and splitting them amoung the Leagues according to your strength, I do agree that there is a butt load of Rivalries and that is what keeps the league strong. But with the amount of people people wanting to join, the continuing growth and the need to keep it competitive for everyone people will be moved.

I did like the idea of pairing 1 - 32, 2- 31 etc together and joining them to get pair and the eventual teams. But the positive i see coming out of this is the fact that alot of teams that want in are lower level teams (excluding the guys from the TEA cup) so i would think with proper planning you will be able to keep the core guys together and duking it out for seasons to come.

As i said before, i believe that the personal championship is fun and will be important however i think getting your team the constructors championship in a team effort would be just as good or even more satisfying

And quick question, how would we rank the teams? Country Rank? Or would we ask Dire really nicely to act as an Independent Commission to conduct research for us

Cheers
Neeber