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171077.120 in reply to 171077.119
Date: 5/3/2011 7:49:38 AM
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Yes it wasn't a bad game indeed. We're still in the process of developing our team. In 2-4 seasons' time, we'll be much better than we are now!

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Date: 5/3/2011 8:02:49 AM
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There are probably three players on the U21 team that with 3-4 more seasons of training could be world class PGs but some of them may be limited by potential issues. However thanks to Hof we now have the best ever crop of 18 year olds out there hopefully being trained.

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Date: 5/3/2011 8:41:18 AM
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Training is the biggest issue: because you only influence indirectly other managers. The biggest countries have what it takes to establish an appropriate "scouting unit".

What I think is that India (or Prathet Thai) only a have a restricted number of users. But... can still create a sort of similar unit based on a small number of players. Quality is more important than quantity. Focus on the most promising players in the hand of the most cooperative general managers is the basis on which we should build. According to my "small country experience", people don't have the time & the sufficient motivation to jump in a major scale program.

Not to offense, but from what I saw since I'm here, the only player capable of assuming this role is Samurai_Tungi. The others only come once in a while. Plus, they don't have the background training knowledge required to optimize ones player potential. No misunderstanding tough: they are, in their ways, important to develop this community, but this is another debate.

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Date: 5/3/2011 9:46:37 AM
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Well I will have to disagree. Yes there are a lot of teams that aren't doing the best job with their training but we have already started a mentoring program. We have a small but hopefully dedicated team of mentors who will begin to spread the word. Yes there will be the majority of teams that will continue to mess up but if we can just get a dozen teams with decent trainees doing a good job training their players it will make a massive diference. There is a also a large number of young Indian players now spread throughout the world thanks to our free agent program and there will be several more in the next two weeks.

It isn't that hard to train. It just takes patience. Level 4 trainer. Single position. 48+ minutes each week. In two seasons our 18 year olds will be better than all but the best 21 year olds we have now.

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171077.124 in reply to 171077.122
Date: 5/4/2011 12:48:15 AM
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I definatly agree with youda....the mentoring program has started and it is really going in full force......moreover the managers ned to be active on the forums and they will learn lot about team management and training.....
though tungi is the most active manager but there are also many more who have capability to train players....

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171077.125 in reply to 171077.123
Date: 5/4/2011 5:00:43 AM
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I'm saying this thanks to my experience of small nations. The beginning is always great... hope that this mentoring program will be as great as it is right now in 2 or 3 seasons.

It's like for companies. They can't respond to every specific customer segment. They focus on their core target & once they are big enough, they expand their range of products in order to attract new customers.

It's an advice among any others: controlling ones growth is one of the key success factor in an environment like BuzzerBeater.

Oh and by the way, I don't agree with you regarding training =P. Your method fits if you want to gain mono-skilled monster. But if you don't have some GE knowledge, you'll be running straight in the wall.

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Date: 5/4/2011 6:12:11 AM
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Oh and by the way, I don't agree with you regarding training =P. Your method fits if you want to gain mono-skilled monster. But if you don't have some GE knowledge, you'll be running straight in the wall.


I am assuming you mean my method for training centers. Well I did say that I was no expert, but I do think just slamming IS, ID and RE each in turn until the main player pops, with the occasional passing in the offseason is the way to go. I really don't see how they would become mono-skilled monsters. All I am hoping is that they could be triple tremendous by the time they are 21, it really isn't that hard to do.

And here are the stats of one of my own trainees. I wont claim he is well trained as I had no idea what I was doing for my first few seasons! Is he a mono-skilled monster?

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: sensational
Driving: sensational Passing: prominent


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171077.127 in reply to 171077.126
Date: 5/4/2011 7:19:27 AM
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I am assuming you mean my method for training centers. Well I did say that I was no expert, but I do think just slamming IS, ID and RE each in turn until the main player pops, with the occasional passing in the offseason is the way to go. I really don't see how they would become mono-skilled monsters. All I am hoping is that they could be triple tremendous by the time they are 21, it really isn't that hard to do.


Nah, I didn't assume anything xD. I didn't even know about your methods. Like I said previously, my posts comes from my own experience. I read French, Spanish and English, so I get to know what's going on in other countries. From what I understood, launching a large-scale project is not the best way to proceed. It's better to go step by step in order to avoid any breathlessness. It's an advice like any others. All I hope is that you guys will reach the expected results ;-). I'm all behind you. Don't mislead.

And here are the stats of one of my own trainees. I wont claim he is well trained as I had no idea what I was doing for my first few seasons! Is he a mono-skilled monster?

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: sensational
Driving: sensational Passing: prominent


Is this player a big man? Or an outside oriented one?

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171077.128 in reply to 171077.127
Date: 5/4/2011 8:45:51 AM
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Wow if you ever find a big man with outside skills like that then let me know. No he is my backup PG but now that he is too old to really train he has to fill in at SF and SG. When I do some JS training I wont mind if he gets some and he can go back to backup PG. I am sure he isn't up to division II Italy standard but in Australia division II he is a fine backup and as one of my draft picks he probably is fairly cost effective.

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171077.129 in reply to 171077.128
Date: 5/5/2011 4:19:27 AM
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Wow if you ever find a big man with outside skills like that then let me know.

X-D! Yeah you are right. Stupid Lao boy that I'am ^^". I just wanted to make sure... in case you were a perfect trainer monster.

Outside oriented players don't need inside skills to be performant. Whereas big men requires more outside ones. For example, with the current GE, a PF will need to master JS, while a SG don't need to even respectable in IS. I don't know if you see what I mean ;-).

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Date: 5/5/2011 6:00:29 PM
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I am sure he isn't up to division II Italy standard


has anybody called me?

Roberto Scalambrieri, former Italy U21

Jump Shot: colossal Jump Range: sensational
Outside Def.: marvelous Handling: marvelous
Driving: wondrous Passing: wondrous
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: prominent

And there are opponents far better as SG (as PG I think he's one of the best in all II, was required several time by Seria A owners)

This week-end I will finally start seriously to scout India PG's (be patient a lot of work this week). One started already

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