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277906.11 in reply to 277906.10
Date: 3/13/2016 4:39:38 PM
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Good point. The team I am referring to finished last in its group.

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Date: 3/13/2016 6:59:31 PM
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Good point. The team I am referring to finished last in its group.

Then I would agree with you he should have less attendance this season than someone who demotes through a play off.

I think the part of the fan survey in question is the happiness with last season's performance. I'm fairly certain that this takes into account the position in the conference rather than the record. So a team bottom with 0-22 is treated the same as a team bottom with 6-16 who finished close to the 7th place team. Real fans would see that differently. I'm sure its not as easy to change the fan survey as it is to complain about its shortcomings, but I think that's where the fault lies.

Perhaps a special case can be made for teams that finish with terrible records like 0-22, or 1-21.

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Date: 3/14/2016 6:12:34 AM
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Problem is, that the gap between DIV I and II is so big (at least in my country), that in most cases the demoted team, will promote right away - all it has to do is sell like 1 or 2 players, which is no big deal, especially with the prices that good right now.

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Date: 3/14/2016 8:48:25 AM
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That's becoming a problem in England too. We're a bit bigger than Austria but I suspect the problem might be the same in many countries now. I relegated a few seasons ago, and promoted the following season. As did another relegated team that went down with me.

This season 3 of the 4 promoted teams were ex D1 teams. It won't be healthy for BB if the same teams promote and relegate every season.

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Date: 3/14/2016 10:11:03 AM
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France (yes a lot bigger) got 4 newcomers in D1 this season.

Good for France. Probably similar size countries have similar situations. I wonder if those countries have a problem between D2 and D3 like the one we're talking about. Pure speculation on my part there though. I thought it was obvious though that when I compared Austria and England, and then said in many countries, I was intimating that I meant similar sized countries to ours, which is the majority of countries in BB. Not many are as large as France.

Your 3 promoted teams demoted and promoted right back or not ?

Well spotted. No they didn't come right back.

A demotion from the point shouldn't mean you will never come back in D1. The goal is that everyone has a chance, demotees and more recent teams.

I agree, though I don't remember anyone saying demoted teams should never have a chance of promoting again.

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The goal is that everyone has a chance, demotees and more recent teams.


Cool. How does this correspond with my initial question?

The demoted team makes money like a boss - and from my understanding, the fan survey should punish those teams.

Demoting from DIV I in Austria, means that the next season will be a walk in the park with very high chances to get an effortless promotion right away.

In that sense a restructuring of leagues would help, but that has been suggested before and is not part of this thread.

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Date: 3/14/2016 12:19:19 PM
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You have to consider a few botified teams - so that sample does not look that good anymore.

But I get it. Demoting and still making the most money is perfectly fine...

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