BuzzerBeater Forums

BB Indonesia > National Team Debate Thread

National Team Debate Thread (thread closed)

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
00
191379.11 in reply to 191379.10
Date: 7/30/2011 7:02:40 AM
Indo Zapper
IBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
1212
Just a simple question for the candidates of Indo NT coach:

- Any opinion bout strength and weakness other than SF of Indo NT? how are u going to use or overcome it?

I read before that Indo has problem with SF, what are u gonna do if (only if) there's no SF with high skill in both OD and ID (or in OS and IS)?

All the best to all candidates!

Cheerz!
Happy BB!



Last edited by Mighty Zapper at 7/30/2011 10:51:50 AM

This Post:
00
191379.12 in reply to 191379.11
Date: 7/30/2011 8:27:48 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1414
Hi,excuse me i am on job trip,and for 5 days more i cant get in.

First of all i was on lubnan,NT manager.

1)I I will try to speak on indonesian and on this i am gonna need your help.I am active 4+ hours per day so for me it s not a problem,to comunicate with the managers,and to go further from this dificulties.

2)In lubnan I do my best,go check the roster of seasons 11-13 if you dont believe me.It was very good this"trip"with lubnan NT.In this two seasons I will try to the best.It difficult,my first goal is to improve the current squad,and also to invest on drafts,so as to create a team for the future with more stars.We will see the progress of each players and we will give to the users a schedule training.As for the asian cup,we will try to pass on the fisrt qualification and then we will see.

3)From the day i choose indonesia,I have around 70 players that I have in my agent(if i remeber the correct number)so i will call everyone,to see their skills and then i will communicate with the users so as to see what they are going to be available(some things like training,game shape will help a lot the team)

This Post:
00
191379.13 in reply to 191379.12
Date: 7/30/2011 8:32:39 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1414
For me the most importn thing in NT is the Game Shape,if you have the best players of the world,with terrible game shape you cant do something.SF is a big problem all over BB.Its the most difficult position.I prefer sf to be "completed".So of course we must to impove the players in this position a lot...

This Post:
00
191379.14 in reply to 191379.11
Date: 7/30/2011 8:35:09 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1414
Hi,this is a good question! :)

If we havent sf,we can play with sf,and pf on position 3.That s of course depents about the skill that our players have,the demans of the opponets,and of course what tactic are we going to do...thats all

This Post:
00
191379.15 in reply to 191379.12
Date: 7/30/2011 10:50:14 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1515
Hi,excuse me i am on job trip,and for 5 days more i cant get in.


before i read your next message, i've already sensed a bad signal.

If you're selected, the first season is going to be your busiest moment. I can understand for job trip or any other activitites, but right now you are candidating yourself. If you are selected, you are going to handle a nation that will serve HCA on next Asian Tournament. We are expecting for a best result and you're now about to spoiled your chance of being selected.

If I were on your shoes, I rather not candidate myself in if i am about to go AWOL when there's an important match. You'll never know when a player getting injured, and you might need to hire another replacement to NT.

I'm sorry for this tough comments, but yeah, this is the Debate. As a part of Indonesian Nation, of course we want our NT candidate to do their best for our Nation.

This Post:
00
191379.16 in reply to 191379.11
Date: 7/30/2011 11:12:09 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
9797
I wrote thats my ideal I now i could not use this (well), cuz i think indonesia havent got a good inside and a good outside SF (in national team level). Btw, i havent seen the database, cuz i think its not fair too see all your home players as a candidate. If i would be elected, in the first few days i would check the database, would see all the players, and after that i can say anything about the SF problem.


Now 2 things:

-I hope, indonesia has 1-2 good SF youngsters, and with good training they would be good SF-s. (I hope the indonesian managers will be active, and keep home your best players, i will do everything for that)

But thats about the future.

-The most important is to have a great Asia Tournament at home. For that i would use the best players in the NT, the most of them are over 24-25 years, so its hard to train them. So in SF position, i would use the best players for the tactic. I wont play just inside attack or just outside. I think tactical skills are my bests Scout your opponent, know everything about his team, know everything about Indonesia's team, and after that use the best tactic. In my eye SF is a bonus position. 2 outside player in guards, 2 inside player in C and PF, and u could use the best SF for the tactic: inside or outside.


Indonesian (still with translator, sorry for that):

Saya menulis thats ideal saya:) saya sekarang saya tidak bisa menggunakan ini (baik), cuz i havent pikir Indonesia punya di dalam baik dan baik di luar SF (di tingkat tim nasional). Btw, i havent dilihat database, cuz i pikir tidak adil terlalu melihat semua rumah Anda pemain sebagai kandidat. Jika saya akan terpilih, dalam beberapa hari pertama saya akan memeriksa database, akan melihat semua pemain, dan setelah itu saya dapat mengatakan apapun tentang masalah SF. Sekarang 2 hal:-Saya berharap, Indonesia memiliki 1-2 anak-anak yang baik SF, dan dengan pelatihan yang baik mereka akan baik SF-s. (Saya berharap manajer bahasa indonesia akan aktif, dan menjaga rumah pemain terbaik anda, saya akan melakukan segalanya untuk itu)

Tapi thats tentang masa depan. -Yang paling penting adalah memiliki Turnamen di Asia yang besar di rumah. Untuk itu saya akan menggunakan pemain terbaik dalam PB, sebagian besar dari mereka lebih dari 24-25 tahun, sehingga sulit untuk melatih mereka. Jadi dalam posisi SF, saya akan menggunakan pemain terbaik untuk taktik. I wont bermain hanya di dalam atau di luar serangan. Saya pikir ketrampilan taktis bests saya:) Pramuka lawan, tahu segalanya tentang timnya, mengetahui segala sesuatu tentang tim Indonesia, dan setelah itu menggunakan taktik terbaik. Di mata saya SF adalah posisi bonus. 2 pemain di luar penjaga, 2 pemain di dalam C dan PF, dan u bisa menggunakan SF terbaik untuk taktik: di dalam atau di luar.

This Post:
00
191379.17 in reply to 191379.12
Date: 7/30/2011 11:46:09 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
99
2)In lubnan I do my best,go check the roster of seasons 11-13 if you dont believe me.It was very good this"trip"with lubnan NT.In this two seasons I will try to the best.It difficult,my first goal is to improve the current squad,and also to invest on drafts,so as to create a team for the future with more stars.We will see the progress of each players and we will give to the users a schedule training.


i think this is junior NT scout job , improve current squad, invest on draft ... sounds common... :x

As for the asian cup,we will try to pass on the fisrt qualification and then we will see.


no no.. we will not dare to see our NT match then x_x

This Post:
00
191379.18 in reply to 191379.17
Date: 7/31/2011 4:51:30 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1414
I have the experience to contro the situation.I was on 5 days on holidays-kob trip.But now I am back,i have the plan so us to the best.Of course the first seasons is the busiest,and of course the first days...also,wich I will have to choose the roster.Of course you want beter results,and my promise is that we will fight in every game,and also we will "read" every point of the match.But of course we cant win the cup,against teams like china but sure we have to do much better results.And we wiil do It.Thats Promise!!!!

As for the second thing,I am full of confidence and I know what i do.I have done this job before so,I know It.

No prob,you want the best solution for NT coach.But i believe that you can trust me:)

This Post:
00
191379.19 in reply to 191379.18
Date: 7/31/2011 4:54:40 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
1414
Yeah in the first thing you are right but all theese meaning in communicate with the U21 coach.But we need to improve the current squad,if we want to have better chacne of doing something,and thats its of course a need.So trust me.

So Indonesia has not the last seasons good results so I give my promise that we will try to do something better.:)

This Post:
11
191379.20 in reply to 191379.19
Date: 7/31/2011 10:34:20 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
99
Yeah in the first thing you are right but all theese meaning in communicate with the U21 coach.


Then why don't you start being U21-scout position at the first place? the scout is the best staff to communicate with U21 coach without mind much any burden to win NT games right?

But we need to improve the current squad,if we want to have better chacne of doing something,and thats its of course a need.So trust me.


You are saying we need to improve current squad. So i still think your best position is U21 staffing. No point to be NT manager only for 'squad improvement project'. You need to win games with your current squad. This sounds very familiar with your previous stint as Lubnan NT coach.. where you develop players, but didn't win games. At the end, you also don't have chance to coach the player you were training.


So Indonesia has not the last seasons good results so I give my promise that we will try to do something better.:)


Looks like you not doing your homework. Indonesia was the best Asian team last season.