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169497.10 in reply to 169497.9
Date: 2/7/2011 5:31:34 PM
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Well you're holding your own these days, it'll be interesting to see how things evolve down there, especially with Hornets just making a buy.

I'm more perplexed/interested in the Cup games. Either our league is abnormally good, or we have a strange run of "luck". You got the Illini axe this year... after I did last year. And now Rebels and FC meet this week!?! Craziness.
But I'm glad at least to note that I have a good shot of finally making it beyond round 4 again for the first time in a while.
I'll probably draw Illini again next round :-p

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169497.11 in reply to 169497.10
Date: 2/7/2011 7:55:21 PM
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yeah now that ive played everyone in my conference once im glad to see where i stand isnt as bleak as it seemed at first
i had a really tough early schedule and am now looking forward to testing the other conference getting to play what seems to be a good even match with springfield five

i think my team should be good enough to not get relegated but it will be some time untill i can compete in the playoffs with you guys

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169497.12 in reply to 169497.11
Date: 2/8/2011 11:00:49 PM
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Holy moly... looks like you met the ax like the others in the Springfield game (wondering if you represent the same or different SGFs!).

Our division somehow 6-1 in the first set of interconference games???

We got obliterated last year, something like only 20-30% wins... I'm really impressed/stunned we came out so strong. First time in forever I really feel like we're competitive!

Looking forward to a fun year now that I know we REALLY ARE in the mix :-)
Particularly impressed by Wolfpack and Death Valley.
It may just be an indication of how tough the Big 8 is, that they are coming in overworked... and I guess I'm behind the division after only beating #8... but I'm excited :-)

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169497.13 in reply to 169497.12
Date: 2/9/2011 1:25:24 AM
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yeah i saw that too, i knew he had me outmatched in player skills was just hoping with his injury issue and my high gs i could pull one out on him, but it was a fun one to watch, his sg i think just light me up all ngiht, but i was pleased that my rebounding kept it that close

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169497.14 in reply to 169497.1
Date: 2/25/2011 1:28:24 PM
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gladiators and 420 shot callers just went bot we all have some easy games to look forward to lol
looks like i might stave off relagation after all

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169497.16 in reply to 169497.14
Date: 2/27/2011 8:49:24 PM
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Well a collection of disappointment to see them/the competitiveness to go a bit, but indeed, good for you and others near the cut line. On the other hand, I'm continually amazed by Rebel... he's gone from DV to obliterating everyone here in 2 years.
(now I'm seeing why... oye, day trading... I really wish they'd apply transfer bans, as it really takes away from the game/market imo). Oh well, whatever.

Anyways, you're holding together well Springfield. I'm still surprised our division has played so well this year.
And another year with no all stars. At least Oakley got one. Guess defense doesn't win All-Star votes 8-)

The week off is so boring 8-)

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169497.17 in reply to 169497.16
Date: 2/27/2011 9:23:15 PM
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do you use any instant messangers?

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169497.18 in reply to 169497.16
Date: 2/27/2011 10:36:34 PM
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Ah, sorry about hogging the all star spots shane :P 7 out of the 10 are from my team. And yeah, youre right, offense seems more important than defense in terms of all star selection. At first I was baffled when my 2nd point guard made starting all star, and my 1st pt guard finished third in voting, but its only because my 2nd pt guard scored 5 more pts per game (they average the exact same rating and assists, but my 1st pt guard has a defense 4 levels higher than my 2nd pt guard...)

And I know it may seem like I'm day trading, but actually what I do is every week I buy a couple cheap scrubs off the transfer list, because I have a small roster and not enough players to play in my scrimmage (I dont want them playing 90 minutes per week).

This could be helpful to you and the rest of the league (Apparently many of the teams in higher divisions use this strategy because I learned it from Naker):
I randomly bid on a few sub-10k scrubs on wednesday or thursday before the scrimmage/cup game. I use the scrubs as tools to make sure my real players dont play too many minutes (but still get full training) in cup/scrimmage games, and then fire them before the financial update on monday so I dont have to pay their weekly salary. Occasionally, I get lucky and one of the scrubs I bid on is worth selling. (Or I get lucky, and the scrub I got already had playing minutes that week in a guard position and is young enough to train, and pops in a skill.)
Anyway, if the players are worth an attempt to sell them, I put them on the TF on thursday. That way, if they dont sell, I can fire them sunday before the financial update.
If you look at my transactions, this season, I really have only got lucky on the TF once: Ive only sold one scrub for over 13k (after the transaction fee). (And this week my net buy/sell was negative).
And it sort of balances out throughout the season. My merchandise sales are 2k below the league average. If not for buying and selling scrubs, my merchandise would be among the top because I have 4 and 5 ball ratings in all my fan surveys except for the transfers part.
So after subtracting the lost merchandise money, the money spent on scrubs that I fire, and the high transaction fees, I really have not made more than 20-30k this season with the method. And I didn't start this strategy until I learned it late last season, and haven't bought any real players for my team since, so I wouldnt say I profit a lot from day trading. (Trust me, if I didnt need the training minutes for the scrimmages, i wouldnt bother with the buy/sell scrubs strategy because the small profit wouldnt be worth the time.) (And I couldnt even day trade if I wanted to, because I do not even have enough money to make day trading worthwhile. The only reason I am not bankrupt right now is because I got 200k from winning 4 cup games, and I spend 0 on scouting now.)

Just another tip, I think the reason I have had success is because I use every single one of my training minutes barring injuries/foul outs (2 pos, 48 min for 6 players). I've noticed that you don't play any of your players for 48 minutes in a game, but in my opinion/experience, it really helps to once you have enough trainees. It may make it a bit harder now, but it pays off in the long run if you have enough trainees. (I trained all 6 of my guards/SF myself, and I spent my money on buying the 4 old forwards on my team)

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169497.19 in reply to 169497.18
Date: 3/3/2011 10:51:30 AM
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Yeah, I'd noticed that strategy too after I was surprised to sell a couple scrubs, and investigated where they went. Likewise not a fan. No realism in that 8-)

Indeed I know there are costs to high roster turnover and such, certainly the roster movement still seems to be paying large dividends for you though, and it just doesn't match what I'd think the intentions of the game.
Am I vehemently upset at you for doing it?
Nah, it's life, and if there's a loophole people will take advantage of it. Does it mean doing it is a good thing? No, not to me. But you are free to make your choices, and you are winning/funded because of it :-)

Likewise, I do play about 48 for my 6, but I don't set them to the only player at that position (and should think realistically that it would be bad for them). I get close to 48 generally, a few a tad over, a few a tad under, and my training seems to go just fine imo. I'm not fully convinced (or at least I hope) that 48 isn't necessarily/certainly THE magic number, that sometimes it might be under or particularly over by at least a few minutes. But I know stats haven't shown this.

I'm still not convinced in the long run that your strategies will pay off with you, namely because I philosophically think finding loopholes usually comes back to bite people/some image of karma (though I'm not Buddhist, far from it... but just in justice in general, in the very long run). And the fact you have so many old guys kind (and particularly as you say, you don't have a lot of money) kind of soothes me that it's true. Whether or not that's true, I do see some of the higher ups succeeding with some of these strategies, wish it wasn't that way, but so be it.

Coincidentally, you are right, I didn't realize it wasn't so much daytrading, and that makes me content more, as its not quite as illegitimate of a strategy (underline quite). The fact your net balance isn't huge really cleans that fear.
And I trained my guards (admittedly older) too, and they're quite solid in themselves. Will be interesting when/if we meet in the playoffs 8-) Particularly since I gave you your closest league game of the year (FC though in the league cup is duly noted). Training out a well-rounded team myself over the years might just pay off.
Then again, how'd that work out for the Pacers in the 90s 8-) [ok, it did work for the Knicks, Spurs, etc to some degree!].

All in all, not griping, just discussing. Whatever the method, you've done a surprising/amazing job winning so much as such a young team. I was stunned when you came up here first and owned us, I thought Oak and I (and Wolfpack) had continued to improve while we worked through promotion years for two teams I thought were great (coincidentally, they haven't fared so well at D III, so maybe not as much as I thought) [one got relegated back here, and so therein owned us twice]. Last season I thought you were strong, but beatable, and so I wasn't worried about it for my team's success, enjoyed it. This season I see you're development curve has continued to explode, and you seem to have us all in the dust.
That said, I'm still holding faint visions inside of beating you in April 8-)

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169497.20 in reply to 169497.17
Date: 3/3/2011 10:53:24 AM
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I'll try to pop in during more games into league chat. Certainly enjoy the community around here :-)
Glad to have a division where there's good discussion and people excited about their teams (even when many of us have been here quite a few years)!

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