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From: zyler

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Date: 12/21/2009 4:42:01 AM
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in man to man def if the guard drives inside the defending guards def comes into play.

i did not list them in the order i favor them i just listed why there are useful on a gaurd.

and crazy while you may agree with shaq more, him saying skills are not needed is still completely wrong and so is that a small gaurd only trains a little quicker.

in man to man def gaurds dont stay near the 3 pt line so inside def IS needed.

shot blocking is an extremely useful in reducing 3pts made by other team so is very helpful.

reboundins as i said does help out a bit so again isnt useless

inside shot helps when the gaurd drives it in close, but alot of times his jump shot will come into play first
so this leads me to believe it to be the lesser of the skills to worry about.


Last edited by zyler at 12/21/2009 4:45:42 AM

From: JohnnyB

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Date: 12/21/2009 4:59:32 AM
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Well i never said that having a skill is a problem, but a guard having inside skills is not for me a factor to overpay a player thats for sure. I will take 13 on OD and 2 on ID for my guard against the 11-4. Even of me that i play inside tactics on 85% of my games my player Hansbernd Leberecht who has 2 on IS playing PG end up with 19.4 points per game 48.3 on shooting 39.1% on 3's. 3.6 rebs. My team was top4 rebounding team on my league too. Do u see any real reason for me to ask for a G with higher rebounding? or IS? i dont think so.

If we are talking about SF's is an other story, but still even those the elite teams have specialized, depending on there tactics that are using, so yes i tend to agree more with shaq than u

From: SplitJ
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its not really necessary unless you are planning to run a certain type of offense. its more of a luxury rather than a necessity

From: JohnnyB

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Like what?

From: zyler

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Date: 12/21/2009 11:37:19 AM
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reread the first post, he asks about the four big man skills on a guard to be rated, not to rate them against guard skills, i totally agree with your post that id take a few pops on any of the actual guard skills then on big man skills for a guard, but this is not what he asked.

and you just totally contradicted your self shaq said the only important one was inside shot, which you just gave an example of how its not needed, like i said jumpshot is higher so the player pulls up on the drive and shoots rather then continuing to the hole.

so again i ll say out of the four big man skills i believe the def based ones are better and that my thoughts on them are based solely on rating them against each other as was asked in the first post.

still agree with shaq? even after giving an example that was completely the opposite of what he was saying?

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Date: 12/21/2009 5:47:11 PM
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I will take passing/driving well over of those. Actually i cant see why a SG needs IS/ID.

From: zyler

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someone changed there tune quickly lol

and yer id take od,ps,js,jr,hd,dr over id,sb,is,rb on a gaurd anyday

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Date: 12/21/2009 6:50:48 PM
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While I would probably never train blocking on a guard, it's definitely not a totally useless skill.

My PG had 4 blocks the other night against a team I didn't think I could beat. I won by 7.


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Date: 12/21/2009 6:58:57 PM
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why is this aimed at me, im saying sb is one of the useful big man skills on a gaurd

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 12/22/2009 5:19:01 AM
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and crazy while you may agree with shaq more, him saying skills are not needed is still completely wrong and so is that a small gaurd only trains a little quicker.


if you read his post he says it, and if you have to pay such diffferent sum to buy him, you would be further if you invest in a bigger better trainees, this size differen from 0"3 isn't that big on training.

in man to man def gaurds dont stay near the 3 pt line so inside def IS needed.


i won't be too sure about it, my centers when tthey play for training porposes against guards, who ussually have no inside d don't hit the balls near the baskets - so i don't like IS and ID much on guards.

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