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From: Enigma
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Date: 6/23/2014 3:25:49 PM
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Not sure where to post this. Sorry if this has been discussed before. I looked but couldn't find anything regarding my specific questions.

I've been playing BB for roughly 5 seasons. Been stuck in league V since I started, this season I will more than likely promote (sitting on a 22-0 record) I would be surprised if I didn't breeze through the playoffs (only bots for other league members).

My questions are in regards to training. For the most part I try to train particular players and ensure that I get the positions that I am training for to have at least 48 minutes each week. The players I train don't always get a pop, I have a superior trainer. I used to have an exceptional trainer, but didn't see the type of pops that one would expect, so I downgraded and as suspected I am getting about the same results with the superior trainer as I was seeing with the exceptional trainer.

I look in the auction and see players with some skills that at the rate I am able to train would be impossible to achieve. My guys might achieve those skill sets if they play until they are 75 yrs old (only if they disable the drops).

How can some players that are under 25 have such high skills (across the board)?
In the higher leagues, does training progress more rapidly than league IV and V?
Do draftees start with much higher skill set in the higher leagues?

I am perplexed as to how on earth these guys have skills that high.

From: Enigma

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Date: 6/23/2014 8:26:09 PM
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Here is an example of what I mean:

Louie Lambert (23474477)
Starting Price: $ 2 222 220
Auction ends: 6/23/2014 5:53:14 PM
Owner: Torontoclub

Ineligible for playoffs.

Weekly salary: $ 53 304
Age: 26
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: mediocre

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: prolific
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: sensational
Driving: wondrous Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: marvelous Inside Def.: wondrous
Rebounding: prominent Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: proficient

Experience: average

and another:

Small Forward
Yiotis Trontzos (24005396)
Starting Price: $ 3 000 000
Auction ends: 6/23/2014 5:54:49 PM
Owner: Torontoclub

Ineligible for playoffs.

Weekly salary: $ 56 799
Age: 26
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong

This is by no means a negative reflection on the owner. I am just perplexed as to how a player can get such high skills. Even if I take an 18yr old and focus primarily on getting the same skill set - I doubt I could get him to have comparable skills even at age 26 like the ones shown above. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm wondering if the higher leagues start out rookies with better skills or are their pops more frequent?

From: E.B.W.

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Date: 6/24/2014 1:04:59 AM
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As South Stags manager said, the biggest mistake that newer managers and simply a lot of managers in general make when trying to train is that they try to train their entire team or 6-8 players which is hard. That may be what you are doing. My max for trainees is and always has been three-four. One position training is the most efficient training and that is where you see these great young 20s players. I would say a level 3 trainer one position training is probably better than a level 5 trainer not one position training. For instance, this is my SF (Who was on the U21 USA NT last season), who I have one position trained since he was drafted and I have a level 4 trainer.

Weekly salary: $ 26 906
Role: rotation player
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 185000
Age: 22
Height: 6'6" / 198 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: wondrous Handling: wondrous
Driving: marvelous Passing: sensational
Inside Shot: prominent Inside Def.: prolific
Rebounding: mediocre Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: average

Experience: inept

The 26 year old that you posted has 109 skill points. Edju Palmer has the same number of skill points and is 4 years younger. There are no better draftees for higher leagues or anything, it is jsut flat out good training by a lot of managers who one position train with a level 4+ trainer and then you can get players like that.

If you look on the U21 NT right now, you'll notice a PF named Devin Farnsworth, and he is the best player I have seen IN A LONG TIME. He is currently at 112 skill points and is only 21 years old. This is because his manager has a level 7 trainer and one position trains him every week.

Last edited by E.B.W. at 6/24/2014 1:07:02 AM

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
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Date: 6/25/2014 12:03:39 AM
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Thank you both for your input. I will definitely apply your advice. Looks like I am reverting back to the rebuilding phase - I hope my fans understand

From: E.B.W.

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Also, if it helps, you do have a lot of pieces you can work with. I would base your team around Robinson and Eastman. I don't know Robinson's skills, but it looks like he has put up decent ratings for a 19 year old and his potential is very good. Eastman looks to be a very nice inside guard/SF for you.

Murray/Harris/MPJ/Grant/Jokic - 2020 NBA Champs
From: Enigma

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Date: 6/25/2014 3:03:37 PM
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Yes, that definitely helps. I'll use them as building blocks. Maybe nab another decent SF or SG with better than AllStar potential to get a 3rd guy to share training with.

Without revealing too much about my key guys:
Eastman SF skills(JS, JR, OD, HA, DR, PA) = 47 : Total skills = 80
Robinson SG skills(JS, JR, OD, HA, DR, PA) = 44 : Total skills = 61

I was focusing on Eastman and another player(Hanley) on my team for the longest time - doing exactly as you guys suggest(48 mins/wk) - although I was using 2 position training quite a bit (I'll stop doing that). Just wasn't satisfied with the results, although Eastman really got a large salary bump at the start of the season. Guess I was a little too impatient - and not focusing on only one position. I was mostly thinking that maybe these guys with high skill numbers were draftees from div I or II. Thanks for clearing that up.