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191445.2 in reply to 191445.1
Date: 7/26/2011 8:25:51 AM
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Hi,

Over this years, have you ever seen any improvements of the national team? Sadly the answer is no. Infact, its getting worser and worser every season. (see fig 1)

Here is my plan, a two to three seasons intensive scouting and nurturing young stars.
-Intensive scouting: Will be looking into the upcoming drafts and also scouting for Singapore players under 21 years of age. Why 21? some ask... If they have good skills and potential, they will definitely develop into future SG stars... By the time, after 2 or 3 seasons, they will be much stronger and ready to face the Asians countries. Why scouting works? we have to identify the talents and attempt to collaborate with SG managers to buy them and nurture them. As nowadays, SG players bought by other countries manager were use as backups and not training them well. Plus, they are selling SG players at higher prices because SG has a realatively small amount of managers playing. This scouting will definitely benefit everybody, as usually SG players salary is lower too.

-Nuturing young stars: As stated, we start early, the more time the players could buff up and grew stronger after every training. Also, i will be focusing on the related skills that are required for the position of the player. (E.g. Centre needs good rebounding, shot blocking and inside shooting) so i will be focusing on this will particular area for the Centre and so on for other positions.
Game shape and stamina is a must have for every player. This is the key to break down opp def's and offense!

Reasons for needing 2 to 3 seasons because, we need to get their stamina up and running, so as to ensure that the main 5 star players could last a longer time and bring some victories back to our home ground. Also, without gameshape, players will be launching all kinds of shot and missing all of them. So it takes time to train up on all tis areas!

First focus: Stamina
Second Focus: Mix of necessary skills and game shape.
Third Focus: Skills
Forth Focus: Game shape
5th focus: at end of the season, train other skills like for centre: passing (its also important as the centre could draw some players to him and toss the ball out for a 3 pointer)

Things may varie as we are looking at the teams we are gonna face. Diff teams have diff training structure. If i am elected, The schdule will be out in no time. :)



Fig 1(extracted from Singapore's National Team Season 16 Consolation tournament)
4/25/2011 6:00:00 PM 93 Senegal 85 - 123 (Replay) 67 Singapore Singapore SC
5/2/2011 6:00:00 PM 42 Latvija 112 - 88 (Replay) 67 Singapore Singapore
5/9/2011 6:00:00 PM 68 Singapore 65 - 111 (Replay) 35 Malaysia Malaysia
5/17/2011 6:30:00 AM 70 Singapore 90 - 112 (Replay) 60 Paraguay Paraguay
5/23/2011 6:00:00 PM 15 Lietuva 120 - 75 (Replay) 68 Singapore Singapore
5/31/2011 12:30:00 AM 69 Singapore 61 - 87 (Replay) 59 Danmark Danmark
6/6/2011 6:00:00 PM 38 Sakartvelo 94 - 80 (Replay) 75 Singapore Singapore
6/13/2011 6:00:00 PM 58 Norge 102 - 94 (Replay) 73 Singapore Singapore
6/20/2011 11:30:00 PM 77 Singapore 84 - 110 (Replay) 43 Crna Gora Crna Gora
SC: Scrimmage

0-8 overall

I know many of you guys think that i am not experience enough, but look at my records i am constantly improving. 1 and the half season jumping from ranking 80+ to 37 now.
I have listed out the plans of the coming season, sincerely hope you SG peeps could vote wisely and weigh the consequences of each other managers running for the election as some measures like the previous one, using players over salary over 100k will not work...
If elected, i will also set up a community with the chosen SG managers and worked together to make SG a better and stronger place and of course much richer.

extracted from: http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=191444&m=1 (SGP_Nyx. election speech)


Cheers,
SGP_Nyx.



Last edited by Nyxilicious at 7/26/2011 8:34:21 AM

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191445.4 in reply to 191445.3
Date: 7/26/2011 9:42:33 PM
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Haha!

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191445.6 in reply to 191445.5
Date: 7/27/2011 6:49:15 AM
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Firstly, of course there is beneficial from Ben's side. Yes there maybe some overlaping of his. But, it does not mean i am gonna stand back and relax. Heres what i am thinking, as Ben has only few scouts, my main aim is to form a larger community, probably 8 to 10 members not only to scout but to really invest their money onto the player. It might be hard to convince them but i belive it can be done as i already had a couple of Buzzerbeater mates standing by this idea and willing to contribute in any way they could. Plus, we are ready to look for members that are gonna get the 1st few drafts of seasons, so as to ensure that the young stars will not fall into wrong hands and being sold to other countries. Actions speaks louder than words, I must be elected to show Singaporeans how my plans are going to be execute, but definitely I will not just rely on Ben’s plan. This I promise.

Secondly, going into the first season, there is not gonna be many young stars playing definitely and stamina for the veterans is a must. I mean really, look at the current situation now, not much talented players are in the ground, I could fill in an equally strong subs and main 5 but they might not be as good as those real talents who usually has lower stamina. My main concern about stamina is also because there is a match I lost last season because of the stamina of my squad. It was a clear victorious battle at start as my rankings were way above. When the players are tired, they shoot and they miss, they can’t defence using man to man as it wastes lots of stamina. What can a person do without stamina, no matter how good they are in shooting or etc…
I think we have different views on this. Haha. :D
Regarding the 3rd point you mentioned, it means that the training that what a centre should focus and so on for other positions for the second focus. Third focus is to train skills that are not so related but also needed e.g. passing.

As stated, it needs a 2 – 3 seasons build up time. This planning I stated before is to ensure that after every season they step into the new season with much better skills and potentials. If you were to focus much on stamina and free throws using the off season. This might result in the players, decreasing in their skills. My point is to prove that, after every season they will get stronger, I don’t think the team will rise and beat teams like Malaysia or China after just one season. The current manager did that and also using the 100k salary plan and it failed for seasons. It’s time to call a change and try out new methods that might boost the team every season. I take back words on the drawing thing but the centre tends to pass out to the shooters and gun down a three if offense was set to isolation 
I had been through rough times, not afraid to admit it. I had been fined before by GMs for breaking a rule of the game. Money flew away and I was stuck with the players I had… I had no choice, so I started reading up forums about offense and defense and etc. that could help my team to improve without using any monetary related ideas. This lesson made me stronger as I learn a lot of the game system. Money does not make the ball goes in, it’s the training and the strategies that rolls it in. What I am trying to say is that, to you guys it might be easy. But, could not buy or expand or whatever to improve the team as my balance ($) was negative. Adding on, seasons after seasons the plans came and failed every season, it’s time to take up a real plan and go for it. Yes I might not be experience as others, but I am definitely wants it more than others and I am putting 101% effort in trying to gain each and every one of the Singaporeans vote with my speech and answering any loopholes in my plans. I’m ready for what is coming, what I am waiting for, is for me to be the NT manager so that my plans would not be put to waste.

The problems surfacing are probably due to teams that has the first few drafts(usually the talents

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191445.7 in reply to 191445.6
Date: 7/27/2011 6:49:44 AM
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were drafted) were being sold or fire immediately after drafting as they think that it does not benefit much to their teams as they had better foreign players in their team already and its wasting their money paying salary for those freshmen. If elected, at the end of every season, I will take note which teams are the bottom few one and BB-Mail them about the beneficials of the new players. Also, I will set up a thread and raising up the problem and create awareness of the situation. This also includes convincing them to train them up and also educate them on the plans.
I belive if we create awareness and carry out the plans. The young stars will not be falling to foreign teams as they will be using them as part of their teams.

Thanks for posting this reply; this will allow improvements to my plan. 
This may not be the answer you want, as there might be some differ in thinking. But do post on if there are any problems.

Cheers,
SGP_Nyx.

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191445.8 in reply to 191445.7
Date: 7/27/2011 6:55:03 AM
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Seasons after seasons, plans after plans. All are just short term plans... You had give the National Team Coach many seasons to prove himself. Now it seems like another season is needed. Instead of entrusting the Singapore's future to a person that failed for many seasons. Why not we call it a halt and change to something more substancial and long term. 1 season will not chnage much. But many seasons were wasted and still not change! All i ask for is to give me 2 to 3 seasons for me to prove my worth. This is all i ask for... :)

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191445.9 in reply to 191445.8
Date: 7/27/2011 10:11:12 AM
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Lastly, I am quite confident to win 2 out of 6 matches for this season Asia pool competition... Australia and Philippines definitely will dominate the top placings. Hopefully, SG could pull it through and get a better consolation placing this year.

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191445.10 in reply to 191445.9
Date: 7/27/2011 8:32:09 PM
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Friend, 2 out of 6 can't even get you to the second round of the tournament. Does that means you target is just for NT to be in first round of the tournament?

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Date: 7/27/2011 8:35:26 PM
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Seasons after seasons, plans after plans. All are just short term plans... You had give the National Team Coach many seasons to prove himself. Now it seems like another season is needed. Instead of entrusting the Singapore's future to a person that failed for many seasons. Why not we call it a halt and change to something more substancial and long term. 1 season will not chnage much. But many seasons were wasted and still not change! All i ask for is to give me 2 to 3 seasons for me to prove my worth. This is all i ask for... :)


Since going to second round of the tournament is considered a failure, does that mean you will bring NT beyond that? Maybe to the semi-final within 3 seasons?