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From: yodabig
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Date: 04/25/2011 18:53:12
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Hi everyone this is my first "Official" thread. I would like to thank everyone that voted for me. I would also like to thank Hof for his great job for the last two seasons and hope he will be willing to keep on mentoring and helping me. I would also like to thank #23 for all his help both past, present and future. Finally I have to thank one person more than any other that made this possible, Samurai_Tungi who will also be my mentor and assistant.

Ok down to business. Who will be the initial U21 team? As everyone knows the team this season has a lot of issues and my main aim will be building for the future. So to begin with I am planning to have a skeleton of a team, just 7 real players. Then I will be adding to the team those players who need to be saved from botting, any amazing new players we discover. I may also have a special role for Mahendravarman Singh seeing as he is the future of India so I might add him very early on as well depending on who his manager is so that I can monotor him week to week and also get him extra experience early.

So who are our best players?
Well I wont post specific details here but if we are to have any sort of debate I will need to give some information. So here are our top 15 players listed by salary.

Name Salary Age Pot Height POS

Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 6 178 pg Great passer, defender and scorer. Our best player by a wide margin. A lock.

Stephen Frankot 23892 21 8 188 sf Teriffic scorer but can't stop a girl guide from scoring. Maybe.

Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 11 190 sg Trainee of our NT coach great scorer and solid all around player. Probably one of our top 5 players.

Aloki Peppin  22468 21 5 196 sf Solid all around SF who doesn't like to pass. One of our top 5 players.

Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 9 188 sg Defensive gun. Best inside/outside scorer. Versitile and skillful. Also great balance. Probably our second best player. A lock.

Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 9 185 sg Well rounded but looks more like a 19 year old NT prospect than an U21.

Diganta Subramanyam 18210 21 8 188 pg Great point guard skills but hideous inside the paint and cannot buy a 3 pointer. Our third best defender.

Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 7 201 c Our best inside defender but will struggle to score in any situation and never make a free throw. The second best big man and that is very worrying.

Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 8 198 pf Our best inside scorer and probably the best big man overall, but not good in international standards where he will be facing $40,000 and up opponents every game.

Vidvan Balu 11536 21 9 213 c Competent big man, would be good if he was 19.

Vihar Pradeep Chand 10770 21 9 188 sg Competent combo guard who can pass a bit, score a bit and defend a bit but way below international standard in all areas.

Agnikumara Meeti 9964 21 5 196 sg Weak in guard skills but does rebound well.

Shipirist Rath 8376 19 7 196 pg Very similar to our other tier three guards but he is 19 so could be someone worth mentoring and developing. Really good for his age.

Aanand Rai  8363 19 6 183 sg Not even close to Rath but Rai is also 19 and very short so should develop fast. Worth watching.

Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 7 218 c Can score inside and pass but very limited big man only here because he is 20 and has time.

Talavali Chinnakali  7772 21 9 183 pg A good defender by our teams standards but can't score at all.

Kaliranjan Selladurai 4577 19 6 198 sf Defensive specialist, you can never have too much defence. Coached by our own Rebel Without A Clue


Last edited by yodabig at 04/25/2011 19:50:30

From: Johnson

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Date: 04/25/2011 19:01:29
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You forgot Aanandakumar Ghosh (14984048)

From: yodabig

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Date: 04/25/2011 19:10:17
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Awesome pickup. Funny that. One of probably our top three guys. Great work added.

One of the things I was going to say was if anyone at all knows of any decent Indian player at all please let me know and I'll add them to our database. Here are the current players I have added. I have the full stats for all of these players correct until this friday.

Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 6 178 pg
Stephen Frankot 23892 21 8 188 sf
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 11 190 sg
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 5 196 sf
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 9 188 sg
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 9 185 sg
Diganta Subramanyam 18210 21 8 188 pg
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 7 201 c
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 8 198 pf
Vidvan Balu 11536 21 9 213 c
Vihar Pradeep Chand 10770 21 9 188 sg
Agnikumara Meeti 9964 21 5 196 sg
Shipirist Rath 8376 19 7 196 pg
Aanand Rai  8363 19 6 183 sg
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 7 218 c
Talavali Chinnakali  7772 21 9 183 pg
Candansu Manchanda 7541 21 5 206 pf
Robbie Bonds 7359 20 7 198 sf
Ishayu Sinclair  7191 21 8 203 pf
Maheya Kanwar 7136 19 6 198 pg
Dhruva Bhushan 7107 20 5 198 sf
Mahendravarman Singh 6611 18 8 190 sg
Bhimasankara Victor Jaya 6582 20 8 208 c
Dhritiman Vikesh 6414 19 6 198 pf
Dhamodraraj Bhushan 6183 19 5 206 pf
Aiman Taneja 6119 19 6 201 sg
Chitrarath Kaicker 5822 18 6 188 sg
Shattesh Bhushan 5642 20 5 206 pf
Udari Morje 5497 19 6 201 sf
Abdul-Rahman Raju 5078 18 4 190 sg
Vidip Jayashree 4937 19 7 211 c
Aayushmaan Ghosh 4885 18 9 203 sg
Gopi Saidullah  4866 18 7 196 pf
Salauddin Azam 4864 19 7 183 sg
Dipak Krishnan 4853 19 7 208 sf
Shatrughan Dixit 4828 19 9 190 sf
Mahendranath Byahatti 4589 19 9 193 pg
Amaresvara Rajak  4532 18 10 206 pg
Gary Vincent 4397 18 5 201 pf
Vihari Mishra 4255 18 5 190 pf
Dharmakeerti Kapoor 4081 19 11 211 c
Janki-Nathan Singh 4052 18 9 183 sg
Vadin Bisaria 4028 18 7 193 sg
Kevin Davies  3996 18 8 213 c
Dineshguru Dwivedi  3971 18 8 193 sf
Amrish Mohan 3855 18 8 193 sg
Chitrada Porsezhian  3774 18 6 185 sg
Sivathaiyan Chadha 3771 18 7 208 sf
Agnibhatta Dalal 3749 18 6 211 c
Amarottama Nigam 3369 19 6 216 c
Amaran Bhadauria 3290 19 8 196 pf
Chelvanathan Adhikari 3162 19 9 208 pf
Tanuj Kumar Das 3112 20 9 190 sg
Swarnamariyappan Ansari  2785 19 8 185 pg


Last edited by yodabig at 04/25/2011 19:24:13

From: yodabig

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Best Players by Position With BC Rating for Position

Best PG
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 9.725
Diganta Subramanyam 18210 21 pg 8.625
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 8.5
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 7.7
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 7.575

Best SG
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 9.375
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 9.275
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 8.525
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 sg 8.4
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 8.25

Best SF
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 PG 9.075
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 SG 9.0
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 SF 8.225
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 SG 7.95
Aanandakumar Ghosh 23317 21 SG 7.8

Best PF
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 7.525
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 7.5
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 pf 6.85
Aloki Peppin  22468 21 sf 6.675
Dhritiman Vikesh 6414 19 pf 6.525
Dharmakeerti Kumar 18633 21 sg 6.475
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 c 6.45
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 c 6.325


How horrible that our big guys are so bad that our best PF is a SG and our second best PF is a PG.

Best C
Sarfaraz Ishtaq 12878 21 pf 7.2
Hashmat Firosh 22138 21 sg 7.15
Hashmat Gnanam 24966 21 pg 6.95
Velmurugan Dey  14597 21 c 6.675
Farooq Ishtaq 8282 20 c 6.575
Vidvan Balu 11536 21 c 6.55


Last edited by yodabig at 04/25/2011 19:46:05

From: Johnson

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Date: 04/25/2011 19:41:12
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if anyone at all knows of any decent Indian player at all please let me know

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From: yodabig

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Date: 04/25/2011 19:51:26
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Thanks again and added him to the database. Great defender and considering his age he looks a certainty to make the team at some stage.

From: yodabig

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So at the moment my inclination would be something like.

PG Hashmat Gnanam
SG Aanandakumar Ghosh
SF Hashmat Firosh
PF Sarfaraz Ishtaq
C Velmurugan Dey
Bench
PG/SG/SF Aloki Peppin
PG/SG Dharmakeerti Kumar
PG/SG/SF Mahendravarman Singh
C/PF Farooq Ishtaq
C/PF Dhritiman Vikesh

Now that is 10 players and I really only want as few as possible so we can save as many guys as we can. I would love to cut that number to 7 but that gives us at least a starting point. I guess something I need to work out next is who is going bot this week and what players they have worth saving.

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Date: 04/26/2011 04:08:02
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Great job...awesome working. I'm so glad that U21 NT got you as their manager. All The Best

From: Johnson

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I've never played it myself, but would a 1-3-1 zone be a viable option with so many guards and a lack of big men?

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I'd think that using 1-3-1 zone is suicidal, especially for our team. 1-3-1 zone is a super perimeter defense and unless you have a super monster big-man, the opponents will just get too many offensive rebounds and go for easy lay-ups. Since we don't have strong big-men, I don't think there'll be a case where we'll use 1-3-1 zone.
Even with man to man, out perimeter defense is likely to be far better than our inside, and I guess the only case where we might use 3-2 zone is if the opponents had a very strong outside shooting and very low rebounding.

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Great work!!
And I agree with this lineup. But one question, is SG Aanandakumar Ghosh overall little more balanced than PG/SG Dharmakeerti Kumar ?