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I have couple of question about Small forward skills .
First : As SF , inside shot important or outside important ?
Second : As SF: which more important about OutDef.& insideDef ?
Final : which Small forward u like it ? playmark ? inside shout ? or all-round ?
plz help me thx !

i want to know too

these are totally unanswerable questions. I think all depends on the preference of the manager.

Personally I like welll rounded SFs.

My ideal SF would have following skills:
most important: jump shot
second: inside and outside defense
third: inside shot, rebounding, jump range and driving.
fourth: handling and passing
last: blocking

if I need to choose between a SF with jump shot 15 and blocking 1 (and the rest neatly spread in between as shown in my list)
of a SF with jump shot 11 and blocking 5, and all the rest neatly spread in between, then I'd go for the last.
I like balanced so much I'd even go for a SF who has ALL skills at respectable above any other you might find that has no higher total amount of skillpoints.

To be of a little help to you here I'll give you some additional info:

in teams who are strong outside, there is 2 options: either you use your SF to strengthen that outside, which would make you choose for an outside oriented SF, but it will make you weak inside. OR you can choose an inside oriented SF to support your weaker inside.

In theory the best thing for any team to have is:
1 inside oriented SF
1 outside oeriented SF and
1 neutral SF

depending on your opponent you then can choose any of the 3 to use in your game, either supporting your tactics, or trying to neutralise your opponent's tactics.

If you only have room for 1 SF, I'd always choose the neutral, since you can use him for every possible tactic there is.

About training:
managers who train noly outside might best buy inside oriented SF and vise versa. this is because the SF will get better in the trained area over time, which will bring him closer to a balanced player over time... (unless ofcourse you intend to never train SF spot along...)

Very nice post ^^^

I do agree that balance is the key to a good SF, that is also the reason they are the toughest position to build properly. They require 5+ seasons of training at various positions, making it tough on the rest of the team.

good post, i would rate it almost the same the only think i like to add is that i rate Outside defence a bit higher then inside defence.

Perfect ! Every team needs 3 different style players ! o(∩_∩)o...
By the way : what about height for SF ? 6’7-6’9 ? If I want to training him become all-around ! which height perfect ?

actually it's not that tough to get them. I'm almost swimming in SF (if you count the ones that are inside or outside oriented too, since they are often shown as SG or PF, but can play very well at SF).

I think the big problem is the vision of most users in BB. Most seem to think they need to choose 1 type of training and stick to it, preferably at 1 or at most 2 positions. One that thinks this way indeed has trouble getting SFs by own training.

I on the other hand have focussed on developping my entire team over the seasons, and the odd thing is (well it;s not that odd) that the SF get developped much more then the other positions that way.

How so?
if you train inside, you will mostly train either your C or your C and PF. On the other hand if you focus on outside, it will be PG and SG mostly.
Now when I train my entire team, I choose teamtraining often (like rebounding for team, of 1on1 for team) or I train inside stuff for SF-PF-C or outside stuff for PG-SG-SF. The player at my SF position is almost sure to get training each week, while the others get training about ever 2 weeks...
So it's prety logical that the SFs in my team get developped most, and it's probably my strength for seasons now...

But it all starts ofcourse with buying the right players...

yeah! According to a recent survey , i found outside shot a bit higher then inside shot about SF ! what the hell is that

profess! look like u like SF very much , i have answer about training quality !
for example : i training PF or C 1 weeks approximately add 1 point . what about u SF . i think if like u training methond : how many weeks can improve ?

fact is that each training will improve the players who played the position you where training. Even if you see no pops, the players still did improve.
By training more positions your players will get less training each time (logicall since otherwise everyone would train as many positions as possible each time), but it also makes more players improve.

Doing this you will see pops less often then training 1 or 2 positions. But to me, pops do not matter. the fact I know my players improve (even if not visible all the time), and the fact I upgrade my entire team in a balanced way with this system, is the most important for me.

So if you want to train a few players to make them pop as fast as possible, this system is not for you. If however you have a soldig base for a decent team, and are planning to try to shape that team, and are not training to try to sell for profit, then my system can be very rewarding.

First you need to identify where you need to focus training. Some pleyers will have need to other types of training more then others. Each player will have his preferred trainings to make him improve, and will have skills which not realy need improvement yet. Based on this, and on the minutes all players got that week, you can see which type of training wuold be most profitable for your team that week.
a small example with just 2 players: let's say A needs OD and driving, but doesn't realy need jumprange. Player B needs driving and jumpshot, but not OD.
Now if both players had full training, it seems best to train 1 on 1 since it trains driving, and both need it, and both have full training. If for some reason A has full minutes, but B doesn't, it might be better to train OD, since A needs it while B doesn't realy need it... Still B will improve, but not as much as A. Over time this will make both A and B more balanced.
this system can be used for any training, even if you train 1 position, and then it will be as easy as in this example.
I do this for my entire team however, and it's prety complex, but doable.
First I check which positions would get most profit from training, then I look at the available trainingtypes for those positions, then I look at what the players use most, and depending on their minutes decide which training is given that week.
This week for example I trained blocking, since I had 2 PF and 2 C with 48 plus minutes, while other positions where more divided (had a player play 3 positions and a few 2 positions... which happens often with players so balanced as mine)
It's a big task each week, but after a while you get used to it and see quicker what the preferable training is for that week. Also you need to manage minutes in the thursday's game as good as possible to direct training one way or the other, and it often happens when that fails that I decide to change my training after that game.

Again I must stress that this way of training does not pay off when you aim for selling players, but I honestly belief it is a great way to improve your team in it's totality. It's the minutes that other manager 'spill' by going for a training they decided a while ago that I pick up by making last call trainingtypes, which make it competable with the other system I guess.

Well i will show u my SF prospect and tell me what u think. Right now i am training big men, him as well. My plans are to train him next season as a big man (maybe some times will get 1 position training) and then train him 1 position as a G, mainly JS, OD, some PA and some DR. My goal is to create an SF who can play inside/outside equally well, couz i love my team to be versatile, so nobody will be able to scout me. So u r thoughts?

Weekly salary: $ 4 435

DMI: 13900
Age: 18
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: average

Jump Shot: respectable Jump Range: mediocre
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: atrocious Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: awful ↑ Free Throw: inept