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Date: 8/17/2009 1:22:57 PM
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When using a 1-3-1 zone is it important to have your best defenders at PG and C? Or do you need your best defenders at the other 3 positions? Or does it not matter that much?

From: Buttsy

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Date: 8/17/2009 7:27:34 PM
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I would imagine it's not too heavily reliant on where your best defenders are, the main thing is to make sure your C is a very good rebounder as he's one of the only players under the hoop after the opposition take a shot.

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Date: 8/22/2009 6:54:35 PM
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I don't know exactly what happens in this game, but in basketball zone defences are used to "hide" bad defenders, so like it was said, the main thing is the one left under the basket being a good rebounder. Btw, any ideas on the best way to counter a 1-3-1 defence? My interior players are not very good scorers, their inside shot isn't great, so I'm reluctant to try "look inside" or "low post" that would rely too much on them scoring near the basket

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Date: 8/22/2009 9:29:34 PM
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Unless your passing is great, I suggest a run and gun offense. It will allow your players to take quick outside shots and try to favor your guards. If they still aren't scoring, the coach may select inside jump shots anyway. Run and Gun provides few dunks and layups on my team.

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105393.6 in reply to 105393.4
Date: 8/23/2009 7:34:11 PM
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1-3-1 is heavily loaded to stop outside scoring, if your inside scoring is very poor, rather than a full outisde scoring tactic like Run and Gun you mite be better suited to try Motion as it also sees your players fire up a lot of mid range jumpers, again though mid range is pretty well guarded by a 1-3-1 defense, so ultimately the best would be look inside or low post.

However, just because they have the best possible defense against a certain offensive tactic, it doesn't mean they'll be successful. At the end of the day if your team is a better outside scoring team than they are at outside defending you will still score a decent amount of points. The key is totry and analyse how good their guards are versus yours.

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Date: 8/25/2009 12:31:45 PM
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I would imagine it's not too heavily reliant on where your best defenders are, the main thing is to make sure your C is a very good rebounder as he's one of the only players under the hoop after the opposition take a shot.


I went back a looked at some of my games were I play 1-3-1 and it didn't look like my Center was grabbing a greater percentage of rebounds than with other defenses. So, although I think this is true in real life, I'm not sure its coded that way in the Game Engine.

Has anyone seen it differently?


Steve
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105393.8 in reply to 105393.7
Date: 8/25/2009 12:34:23 PM
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I guess my question about the 1-3-1 revolves around the new GE. In 2-3 zone, your PG and SG are your outside defenders. In the 3-2 zone, the SF is added to your perimeter defense.

In 1-3-1, you have essentially 4 outside defenders, right? So you want to have decent OD on PG, SG, SF & PF...


Steve
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Date: 8/26/2009 6:19:40 PM
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What about pace? In the game manual 3-2 and 2-3 zones are described as having slow pace. Does that have anything to do with overall pace of the game, does it slow down the opposing offense or is it correlated to something else?

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Date: 8/26/2009 9:28:46 PM
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Btw, any ideas on the best way to counter a 1-3-1 defence? My interior players are not very good scorers, their inside shot isn't great, so I'm reluctant to try "look inside" or "low post" that would rely too much on them scoring near the basket



The obvious offense would be Look inside, or low post. If your team is mostly dependent on outside scoring, i would suggest Princeton offense. It is a mix of both outside and inside scoring, with very little mid range shots. Because, you cannot score too well inside, i would imagine players would drive in and kick out, well at least in real life, allowing for easier outside shots. Not sure if it works the same in the GE though.