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261863.136 in reply to 261863.135
Date: 1/20/2015 6:56:55 PM
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I don't particularly care about micronations since I don't play in one (unless they ban 4 users a week for the next 50 weeks). So even if I did see a problem, it's not like it would have a substantial impact on my game experience.

I'm mostly interested in knowing your point of view, since you play in the same nation as Trainerman and have a very different opinion. Can I infer from your answer that you think your nation is fine as it is?

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261863.137 in reply to 261863.135
Date: 1/20/2015 8:36:47 PM
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Nations - as you pointed to - having effectively zero users, is indeed an issue.

For whom, the bots that play there?

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261863.138 in reply to 261863.136
Date: 1/20/2015 10:36:08 PM
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I don't particularly care about micronations since I don't play in one (unless they ban 4 users a week for the next 50 weeks). So even if I did see a problem, it's not like it would have a substantial impact on my game experience.

I'm mostly interested in knowing your point of view, since you play in the same nation as Trainerman and have a very different opinion. Can I infer from your answer that you think your nation is fine as it is?

Fair enough. Yes, you can infer that, to a point. I'd *like* more users, but I don't see it as quite the issue that wolph (trainerman) does. I would think that there are lots of other things that could change/be dealt with that are more important than the perceived problem of 'micronations'.

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261863.139 in reply to 261863.138
Date: 1/21/2015 4:47:55 AM
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I guess others are not as optimistic as you in terms of boosting the numbers, especially in smaller nations. That said, let's wait until the season's news, you never know, they might have some surprise :)

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Date: 1/21/2015 6:54:12 AM
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I guess others are not as optimistic as you in terms of boosting the numbers, especially in smaller nations. That said, let's wait until the season's news, you never know, they might have some surprise

I didn't say that... I just have no problem with there being a small number of active players in Japan. It's been about the same for several seasons now.

I also don't proclaim to be speaking for other users, but in lieu of their being inactive in discussion, I'm *guessing* they're at least content with the status quo.

I also think another point that NEVER gets discussed is the possibility that an amalgamation of smaller nations might end up in a significantly smaller sum total. Watering down identity might end up with some pretty negative results (which is why I think the BBs have never appeared interested in doing this).
If I were in an *Asia* league, rather than Japan, I do think I'd be less enthused.


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261863.141 in reply to 261863.140
Date: 1/21/2015 9:08:37 AM
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Here's the main problem I have with India. The small number of users means that tanking for a few seasons is rewarded as one builds up a warchest and then buys a good salary efficient team. Because winning has such an impact on fans, those teams get significantly more money keeping them on top. It's a cycle that's hard to break.

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Date: 1/21/2015 4:19:27 PM
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The primary problem there is tanking, compounded by being in a small nation. But... it's still an option available to all within that nation.
*Staying on top* isn't really a viable option in ANY league. In bigger nations, salaries get so high that it's simply not possible to do so ad infinitum. Players age, and if you're running a roster of guys with a salary of 750k-1mil, sooner or later they're going to age to the point of where you're not on top, then you'll have to retool/rebuild.

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261863.143 in reply to 261863.142
Date: 1/21/2015 8:08:03 PM
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That's fair enough and there is always the option of tanking. I just think that tanking is a more viable option in micronations and may even be the only viable strategy.

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Date: 1/21/2015 10:39:23 PM
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The primary problem there is tanking, compounded by being in a small nation. But... it's still an option available to all within that nation.
*Staying on top* isn't really a viable option in ANY league. In bigger nations, salaries get so high that it's simply not possible to do so ad infinitum. Players age, and if you're running a roster of guys with a salary of 750k-1mil, sooner or later they're going to age to the point of where you're not on top, then you'll have to retool/rebuild.

I'm trying to follow this conversation, and one thing escapes me so far. What's to prevent retooling bit by bit season after season, and remaining competitive?

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