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From: ig
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Date: 07/29/2016 02:55:38
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Hi all,

I wonder how slower is a 2-position training compared to 1-position. Particulariy OD and Passing training.

I have 5 main trainees (plus one backup) that all need the above skills. 3 20 y.o. overall players with 1 on 1 forwards training up to now, and 2 other 24 y.o., one of them a bigman, which are about to enter NT, but need several pops in the above skills. I really want to get those 2 guys to NT and help my national team in general, but I'm afraid that the other 3 youngsters development will be harmed too much when training 2-pos. So what would you suggest?

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280806.2 in reply to 280806.1
Date: 07/29/2016 12:29:14
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If I remember correctly, 2-pos trains at 70% of the speed of 1-pos. Having 3 trainees at a time is difficult enough. With 5, it's impossible to give all of them 1-pos training. At least 2 guys would get no minutes or multiple guys would fall short. It might be in your best interest to sell 2 of them. You should ask the NT coach for his opinion.

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280806.3 in reply to 280806.2
Date: 07/29/2016 14:25:44
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Thanks for the response. 70% is good enough for me, since it's maximum a season of trainings like that (meaning 3-4 pops less for the youngsters next season, something I can live with). I've already talked to NT manager, so most likely I'm gonna keep these NT guys, hopefully with 6-7 homestic NT seasons in project

Have a nice day!

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280806.4 in reply to 280806.1
Date: 08/02/2016 09:48:40
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It also depends on the Potential of the athlete too and when they will max out. If you truly want to get your athletes on the NT then it would be more wise to go 1-position training instead of 2-position training. Also get a high trainer.

For example:
You're doing 2-position training and receiving only 70% of the max. So if you average 10 pops a season at max, then you'll only get 7 pops per season.

Your fellow countryman who are also training their NT potential players on 1-position training and receiving 100% of the max. They will receive 3 pops per season more than you.

With your guys being only 24, I'd suggest they would need at least 3-4 more seasons before having the slim chance at the NT. In 3-4 seasons, your fellow countryman would receive 9-16 more pops then you which could be the determining factor on whether your players actually make the team or not.

If you look at it as you want your athletes to make the NT by the time they are 34, your countryman would have received, in theory, 30 more pops than you.

Although 70% of the max doesn't sound bad, your chances of actually building and getting a player on the NT drops just as much since others are getting the max out of their players.

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Date: 08/02/2016 10:00:52
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All the 5 guys I train are hall of famers. My trainer level is always 6. According to my conversation with my NT coach, both the 24 (almost 25) y.o. guys are close to NT, and I truly believe they'll enter the squad within the next 2 seasons. Maybe they will still need some training, but on the other hand, there will be some with only 2-pos. available in plan. So I guess that my 20 y.o. guys with TSP of 90, 83 and 81 will have their chances either

Thanks for response.

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Date: 08/02/2016 10:42:46
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I like the chances of your 20yos much better than the 24yos. But if the NT Manager says so then he knows best.

What skill you're training also matters since your 24yos are 6'0 and 7'2 and those two heights create completely different builds for teams. One is great for guard skills and the other is great for big man skills. I'm not sure your training plan for them but I personally would have completely different plans because of their heights. Good luck with your future HoF! I hope they do make the NT!

George Johnson

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Date: 08/02/2016 16:09:44
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The bigman mostly needs some polish on secondaries. Maybe a pop or 2 on primaries. The guard needs mostly JR & passing skills. Maybe a pop on OD. There will be a spot for some rebound & JS training for both of them together with the youngsters, but for the upcoming season I plan guard skills training.

BTW, does JS contribute to the elastic effect on OD? In orher words, do I need to train it up to driving and handling level before I start training OD?

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Date: 08/09/2016 03:31:21
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Thanks.

I would be extremely grateful if provided all connected pairs (groups) of skills that contribute to each other's elastic effect. It's exremely important for my future training plan. Thanks again.