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261684.1
Date: 07/27/2014 15:45:11
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so i have been playing this game for about a year and a half and I have never had problems like this. This season I can never get the guys i'm training to play the full 48 minutes. I play strictly follow depth charts, my starter is listed as my back up and third string and there are no extra players suited up for the game that are not in the line up, yet for some reason my coach will get some random players from a different position and sub him in for a few minutes. The past few season I've never had this problem and i have not even had to try this hard. Normally i just list the guy i'm training as the starter and he plays the full 48. Over the past 4 season Ive had it happen maybe 3 or 4 time where the game engine messed up and subed out the starter, this season already i've had it happen like 3 times. How in 7 games could it have happened more then n 4 season. I don't see people talking about it but there has to be some change to the code, what else could cause that change?

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261684.2 in reply to 261684.1
Date: 07/27/2014 21:44:08
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The only way to ensure 48 minutes is to have 5 players dressed. If you have more than 5 players the coach will sub in the ones who haven't gotten much time in at the last few minutes of the fourth quarter if it is deemed "garbage time". This time generally happens when one team is so far ahead, they can't lose, hence the coach making subs that may not seem logical, but gives players who didn't get time some time. Judging from your games, it looks like you blow out a lot of them, and as a result, by the last few minutes of the 4th quarter, you're probably well ahead by 20+ and the coach decides they don't need the starter and subs in someone else.

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261684.3 in reply to 261684.1
Date: 07/28/2014 05:10:56
Woodbridge Wreckers
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Do you have different players? Are you training out of position? I too have 2 players that get subbed out at the end of blowouts with some regularity, especially when training out of position. I have complained about it too, but not much to do against it except just dressing 5 players like said above.

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261684.4 in reply to 261684.2
Date: 07/28/2014 05:42:16
rimmers
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This is not necessarily true.

I usually suit up 8/ 9 players, and have trainee at say PG for the 48mins, and a backup/res for each of the other spots. In the 8 seasons ive trained them, ive not had problems with this, even when there is injury/foul out, it doesnt affect the trainees position. The key though is to not have a different player as the reserve as the backup, make them the same. Otherwise you can have the starter as backup too, then reserve as someone different. All have led to trainee staying on court though. And my staminas of my 3 trainees are all under 4.

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261684.5 in reply to 261684.4
Date: 07/29/2014 18:21:13
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I don't know if you correctly read what I said, but I said I don't think stamina is the issue. Stamina just affects performance. What I spoke of was Blowouts. I'm assuming you don't have many blowouts and on top of that, any blowouts you did have, wasn't usually doing the line up setting as described in his post. I've done what he has done, and when the game was a blowout, they'd sub my main in the last few mins of the game, no matter if I set him to starter, backup and reserve. It's just the way the engine is, that's why when trying to control minutes, you want to find a scrimmage opponent depending on the difficulty accordingly

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261684.6 in reply to 261684.5
Date: 07/29/2014 20:04:05
rimmers
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Well you assumed wrong (seriously, what a stupid comment). Can I use last night's game as an example?

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Pg is my trainee, sg I tactically set for 48min to get them ideal for the week. I could continue with pretty much every game over the last 7 seasons as an example.

The stamina bit I added as extra info to help the orinal poster with his problem. Definitely not stating that it's the issue

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261684.7 in reply to 261684.6
Date: 07/29/2014 20:31:46
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Actually went through the same thing for a stretch last season. My trainees couldnt get 48 minutes, blowout or not, unless I played 5 guys. Trainees usually played 46-47 minutes. Even when I played with 5 guys in a few games my trainee fouled out or got injured. In one scrimmage played 6, trainee also got subbed in the end.

Posted it as well and there was no clear consensus on the reason. This season so far am now able to get 48 minutes. Only changes are: my trainees are older, have higher stamina and different teammates.

IMHO its a combination of stamina, players on the court, the opposition, and chosen tactics - the GE fielding the most "logical" (based on its algorithm) lineup at the moment but I have no concrete data to back it up.

What I did last season was just focus on 2 trainees. Not ideal but what can you do? <shrugs>

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261684.8 in reply to 261684.6
Date: 07/29/2014 20:58:53
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Well sorry if I don't look through your match history. However it's been stated before that blowouts will have garbage minutes that the coach will give to a sub. Not sure why, but it happens, maybe because all your subs got decent amounts of minutes the coach didn't see any subs to give the time to.

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261684.9 in reply to 261684.6
Date: 07/29/2014 23:03:48
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yer i dress 9 players and set my trainee to Starter, Reserve, Backup.

The key is to also set your bench guys to be Reserve and Backup. 9 times out of 10, this works out.

I have had instances though, where, during garbage time, the trainee gets subbed for a starter, which makes me believe that stamina does have something to do with it. Trainne stamina is atrocious - this might be a problem? Not sure.

only dressing 5 players does guarantee 48 mins though. (except fouling out obviously).

but dressing 9 seems to work out for me most times.






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261684.10 in reply to 261684.9
Date: 07/29/2014 23:53:35
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Most of the time it does, but during blowouts is when it tends to happen. Only BBs can know why at most, no one else knows how the GE works

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261684.11 in reply to 261684.8
Date: 07/29/2014 23:54:42
rimmers
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It was just a pretty outrageous comment to say in 6-7 seasons that you were assuming there hadn't been junk time matches. They are extremely common. The lineups are very predictable if you set them correctly, and as coach said, setting the same player as backup and reserve is the key. Don't have players dressed up but not assigned a position.