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We also want to talk about some long term changes. We believe that BuzzerBeater should strive to be a well balanced game. Because of that, we are introducing some changes to the player salaries. Inside oriented guards have played a big role in this past period of inside domination, but their salaries failed to reflect that. From next season on, their salaries will depend on more than just rebounding, as far as forward skills go. Be warned! However, this also means that guards with not-so-great forward skills can expect a very welcome salary decrease!

A little bit about me:
I'm not a cookie cutter LI guy, but I am kind of a positionless BBall guy. I like versatility. My bigs are best at being bigs, and my guards are best at being guards, but there is definitely some overlap. I do 2 position training from the SF/PF slots, using them to round out my bigs while working on what I hope will be serviceable backups at PG-SF. I'm really just trying to get away from the 3 player 31+ year old carousel at guard I've been running since I started. I play for fun. Never planned on sticking around past DIV promotion, but D3 felt almost like starting over only with a hand-picked team so I just kept going. I'm not interested in the path of least resistance to the NBBA, whatever league I'm in is my NBBA, and the only way up is through even if it stunts my growth as a franchise. Not a min/maxer, I'd much rather train a guard skill at 80% in the SF/PF slots than play my future center at PG for a season or more.

Anyways, here's my question:
This guy, (38356850), has only Allstar potential, TSP: 74 (52 + 22). Will this change mean that he will cap a lot sooner?

I'm also confused about the "However, this also means that guards with not-so-great forward skills can expect a very welcome salary decrease!" part. If strong or lower= not-so-great, then maybe it will mean he will cap later than I anticipated... I guess I'll know when I see whether his salary goes up or down after the change, right?

Note: I'm not interested in a discusson about whether or not the change should be made, only in speculating and planning for it.

Last edited by Harold Miner at 9/3/2016 12:06:33 AM

Cap is based on skills not salary so i don't see any change. Only salary is changing.

Last edited by aussie dude at 9/3/2016 1:22:28 AM

Cap is based on skills not salary so i don't see any change. Only salary is changing.

I think one of the first questions that I asked on these forums was similar to what I'm asking now. The How does potential work? (144856.33) says...

Different potential levels cap out at different skill levels.

... but then it goes on to give a range of (outdated) salaries anyway. I asked why a range of salaries was given when a range of TSP would make more sense, and be more useful. The answer I was given was because of the relationship between TSP and salaries.

When I use the salary estimation tool on buzzer-manager, it seems to indicate that putting 2-3 more big man skills on my PF will place him into the 90-100% Potential Cap Limit range and his salary goes up quite a bit. But, if I look at putting more OD or Passing on him, his current Potential Cap Limit range doesn't change much at all, and his salary doesn't go up by very much. Training Simulator also seems to work on a similar principle. Am I just using these tools wrong?

Would a player who would cap with 2 more levels of IS/ID/REB/SB also cap if 2 more levels of Passing or OD were added instead?

Would a player who would cap with 2 more levels of IS/ID/REB/SB also cap if 2 more levels of Passing or OD were added instead?

Hi, to answer your question: No not necessarily. In BB there's a total of five different salary formulas, representing PG thru C positions. If you search for a player on the transfer list, there's an option to search for a specific "best position" - this is the game's way of allocating each player to each of those salary formulas. The salary formulas are unknown and at best we have our experienced estimates, but generally speaking a player with high inside skills will be in the Center salary formula and a player with high outside skills will be in the Point Guard/Shooting Guard salary formula. Forwards will be in between those two.

Bottom line: As long as those 2 pops in Passing or OD keep your Center (for example) still in the Center salary formula, then he will still have room for his cap.

Hope this helped! (y)

It does, thanks. I'm a little surprised that half my guys are still classified as PG, but I like to have a minimum level of passing on my players so I'm sure that plays a role. Maybe this change will even shift one or two of them into the SF "best posiition."