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Date: 10/23/2015 8:46:59 PM
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Is there any official or at least conclusive thread saying what to train first/last for best use of elastic effect?

From: Phyr

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Date: 10/26/2015 5:56:53 PM
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Pretty sure that IS speeds up ID and ID speeds up RB.

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Date: 10/27/2015 12:27:48 PM
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I always thought that SB was the last skill to train for bigs, but to confirm sb. should ask J. Ka.

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Date: 10/31/2015 11:20:33 AM
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the usa offsite analysis did not find that sb had an elastic impact

From: Phyr

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Date: 10/31/2015 11:35:57 AM
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Yeah but its the best we have. If someone produces a more reliable data set with different conclusions, I would base my decision on what to train on that.

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274034.10 in reply to 274034.9
Date: 10/31/2015 1:37:40 PM
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I found that Coach Parrot (and therefore the US offsite) underestimates the impact of SB and I suspect it might actually affect RB too since my kid popped on cross training in RB to 16 when he shouldn't have been near a pop (and past Marvelous on a 24yo the sublevels should be pretty accurate). It was either SB or ID, but ID should be accounted for correctly in the numbers.

PA for taller players is another skill which seems to be slightly off (either the skill itself or the elastic component) compared to the numbers of the US offsite.

I think you're right that there is a lack of data about some training regimes given age and height of the players. Especially because the best way to estimate the actual numbers is with several training sessions in a row and multiple pops, which I think was quite unusual for big men PA or SB back when the project was gathering data.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/31/2015 1:48:55 PM

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Date: 10/31/2015 2:06:47 PM
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SB does train ID and RB as secondary skills.