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Date: 12/9/2012 1:35:11 PM
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Yep you read that right. The guy I'm playing next starts five centers or pf. He runs low post and 2-3. I am not a great outside team as I am also an inside team but I have ran run and gun once this season. I am shooting 39% behind the arc. So I figured against five centers and 2-3 I have no choice. My real question is what defense. I am thinking maybe full court press because hey are bound to have awful handling; however, they already get 4 more rebounds (56-52) then i do so I was think of running 2-3. So should I run full court press (I have never ran it) or 2-3? Thanks for your advice.

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232731.2 in reply to 232731.1
Date: 12/9/2012 2:08:31 PM
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Man to man is probably your best option.

FCP might work but I don't think the steals would make up for horrible half court defense. I don't have much experience with FCP so I can't say for sure but there is a reason for that (hardly anyone uses it because it's not very good).

2-3 is rarely better than M2M on teams that haven't purchased players specifically for that system. You need an SF with high ID and high SB on your forwards and center among other things. If there was ever a game that was an exception to this rule this might be it but my money is still on M2M.

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Date: 12/9/2012 9:19:36 PM
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Yep you read that right. The guy I'm playing next starts five centers or pf. He runs low post and 2-3. I am not a great outside team as I am also an inside team but I have ran run and gun once this season. I am shooting 39% behind the arc. So I figured against five centers and 2-3 I have no choice. My real question is what defense. I am thinking maybe full court press because hey are bound to have awful handling; however, they already get 4 more rebounds (56-52) then i do so I was think of running 2-3. So should I run full court press (I have never ran it) or 2-3? Thanks for your advice.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. He can't really shoot or defend from the perimeter, and his OF is pathetic (he's averaging almost 18 turnovers a game). Also, his GS is crappy, so he's not even as good this week as he was last week.

I'd recommend playing a Base/M2M or even a Motion if you have the players to pull it off, but I'd steer clear of a R&G if you're worried about the rebounding disadvantage. Or, do what his opponent in the first game did and run a LP/2-3; it totally worked for that guy.

edit: Also, this is slightly off-topic, but are you banking any enthusiasm at all?

Signed,

A guy who starts 3 PFs and 2 Cs every game.

Last edited by darykjozef at 12/9/2012 9:20:54 PM

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232731.4 in reply to 232731.3
Date: 12/10/2012 8:57:55 AM
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No, I am not banking enthusiasm I really don't have a reason too because I am not planning on promoting so it's pointless; however, I will be playing TIE in the tourney because its a D6 team. I don't agree with this M2M idea. I mean they guy clearly is not going to have an outside game so why not run 2-3. It increases rebounding and it packs the inside. I really don't like the concept of having my trainee pg playing M2M against a center. Not happening, he's a trainee meaning he doesn't have good inside defense. 2-3 does increase your inside defense even if the players do not have the skills listed by w_alloy. LP would be an awful choice. If you notice they guy who beat him with LP has a 43K center. My guys are the same skill level so it wouldn't work. With run and gun, would not the guards run down the floor? My guards have atroticous to inept rebounding so it comes majority from the SF-C positions.

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232731.6 in reply to 232731.1
Date: 12/10/2012 9:20:28 AM
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Patient is an option here too, especially if you know where his weakest perimeter defender is going to be and you have solid passers on your team.

Defensively I'd go man to man, you'll likely get about 2/3rds the TOs and you won't give up a bunch of easy buckets and more rebounding.

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232731.7 in reply to 232731.6
Date: 12/10/2012 10:37:15 AM
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Why not 2-3? I still don't get going M2M when they have no outside threat. I think 2-3 is probably the best.

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232731.8 in reply to 232731.7
Date: 12/10/2012 11:43:23 AM
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2-3 in this game doesn't work as it should so M2M is the best option, if you're guys have high Stamina maybe Full court press

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232731.9 in reply to 232731.7
Date: 12/10/2012 11:43:57 AM
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Why not 2-3? I still don't get going M2M when they have no outside threat. I think 2-3 is probably the best.


Because it's hard for your nimble point guard to steal the ball from an out of position center if he's off playing in a zone somewhere. And you don't want to make the passing lanes too open, to the point that even three skilled donkeys can hee and haw and get the ball down low.

I'd actually give more consideration to the 3-2 than a 2-3 unless you've got some really specific skills on your big men. All the inside scoring in the world isn't a threat if every possession is a bunch of Gigantors trying to figure out how to get the ball near the bucket and either turning it over or having to take long, contested jump shots.

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232731.11 in reply to 232731.10
Date: 12/10/2012 11:56:07 AM
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3-2 can work as well yeah.

2-3 is troublesome in this case cause it will allow poor OF players from being forced into more mistakes. It will also allow mid range shots which his PF might be good at.

3-2 will force long range shots, and since they are bigs, their JR is probably lacking. Add that it will make their poor OF even more apparent, this might be the best approach.

Also, Manon is a genius. That is all.